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yankee_josh · Sep 18, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

What would be the highest spike dmg from a hammer warrior?

Ive heard that most people think symbolic strike is crap

ive played with a Forceful Blow + Fierce Blow + KD + Deep Wound + Holy strike
but i know there must be somthing better

thanks!

Age · Sep 19, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Hammers don't do spiking that would be axe Executioners Strike and Eviscerete.Swords do pressure damage.Hammers are for weakening and KD.

troyismyname · Sep 19, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

by spike damage im guessing you mean the most damage in the shortest / smallest amount of time.

I would guess that Devastating Hammer + Aftershock would be a good spike.

This isn't the answer you are looking for if you want a skilbar thatll have a super high output of damage. in fact you are playing the wrong class if that's what you are looking to do. i think an assassin is what you are looking to play.

your combo is not a spike. maybe you are looking for a combination of skills that has a high damage output (once again go assassin).

Nexus Icon · Sep 19, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Contrary to what Age says, hammers DO do spiking.
In fact, they can pull off the actual spike just as quickly as axes.
Set up your spike with a knockdown, preferably [skill=text]Backbreaker[/skill] or [skill=text]Devastating Hammer[/skill], then [skill=text]Crushing Blow[/skill] for an almost exact duplicate of [skill=text]Eviscerate[/skill], followed up by the all-important quick attack for activation of the spike, [skill=text]Belly Smash[/skill]. While under an IAS stance, Belly Smash activates at least as quickly as Executioner's Strike, if not quicker.

Those last 2 skills are the spike itself, and take no longer to activate than the Eviscerate/Executioner's combo.
If your enemy's at 50% health or below when you start the spike, and is not a boss, you're pretty much guaranteed a kill by the end of the spike.

Yes, there's no additional damage from Belly Smash, but the whole point of a deep wound spike is that the deep wound itself is the spike. If you can dig it up, a few months ago we had an in-depth discussion of how deep wounds worked, and the actual damage of the attack following the deep wound is almost inconsequential; the important part is the speed of that attack. Your post deep wound attack may only do 3 damage, but you'll still see a massive chunk of the target's health bar disappear.

A Leprechaun · Sep 19, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

Why use belly smash with a 1 second cast when you could use protectors with a 1/2 second ( I think ) cast, and it would have use against kiters.
Yes hammer can spike, although in most cases it just more of a combo than a spike:
[skill]Forceful Blow[/skill] [skill]Heavy Blow[/skill] [skill]Crushing Blow[/skill] [skill]Protector's Strike[/skill]

Thats quite a condensed combo, that would work quite well, make sure to be under IAS.

+42, +32, +21, +100ish (DW), added to 4 hammer attack damages which are pretty high too.

~A Leprechaun~

Nexus Icon · Sep 19, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Because as a side-effect, Belly Smash also acts as a nice impromptu defense thanks to the 10 second AoE blind

But yeah, any of the 1/2 second attacks are effective.

A Leprechaun · Sep 19, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Yeah Belly smash's blind is handy, but so is a faster spike, also my warrior doesnt have belly smash

~A Leprechaun~

Nexus Icon · Sep 19, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I'm really surprised Leprechaun; I would have thought that someone like you who loves builds that stray from the mainstream would have been all over Belly Smash.

I see you're still playing around with "Lose All Adrenaline" skills too.
You're utterly barmy, and I heartily commend you for it

That PvP build you posted once that focuses on Steady Stance and Drunken/Desperate blow +Hammer Bash is still one of my favourites for PvP warriors.

A Leprechaun · Sep 19, 2007, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Lol that ws not my build ^^, never actually played SS builds, not my thing. But I'll take the complement anyway, thanks.

Yeah you have to stray from the mainstream when you change your build about 5 times every time you play, I rarely use the same build for 2 days straight.

~A Leprechaun~

Turbobusa · Sep 19, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

belly smash's recharge makes it unwanted. I tried some weird build with it, I was waiting for it to recharge about 9/10 times.